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Old 07-08-2020, 04:03 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB View Post
Well, it's hardly new for Canada to be critical of China's human rights record while being quick to welcome Chinese money.

Anyways, maybe you missed my first point, that targeting visas will hurt Canada, strengthen the CCP and not hurt China in any way. What is the point in choosing that method as a response? It's stupid. I would hope the government finds another, smarter way.
The Canadian government already does this with many countries. This is nothing new and has been in place for years. When Russia invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea, visa restrictions to Canada were placed on Russian citizens. I know for a fact it's hard as hell for Russians to come to visit here. It's still possible, but not without jumping through many hoops and some good luck. That's the whole point of visa restrictions; make it difficult for people to visit in the hopes that they complain to their leaders and eventually changes are made.

Can you tell me how did those visa restrictions hurt everyday Canadian citizens? How did it strengthen Russia, like you say it would strengthen China? At one point before Romania was EU, Romania had lax visa entry to Canada, and blatant corruption and human rights abuse caused Canada to reverse that after 6 months. How was Canada hurt and Romania made stronger from that? Canada took a stand on what was happening in those countries and one way to do that is act on visa issuances. All countries do it. It's nothing new ever since international travel was a thing.

It's not stupid like you say. It's very much a thing, and Canada needs to adjust their visa policy with China in accordance with their recent actions. After all, ease of visa entry to Canada is based on the 7 things I wrote in my original post;

socio-economic conditions
immigration issues
travel document integrity
safety and security issues
border management
human rights issues
bilateral considerations

Immediately, three of those points pop out as being a concern. 4, 6 and 7. So it makes no sense to keep our visa regulations with China the same. Those are our stipulations to easily visit Canada and China has broken them. Changes should be made in accordance with our own policy.

If anything, your post of sitting by and watching what Australia and America and how it plays out is what's foolish. Sit by and do nothing, that is your solution? Be reactive instead of proactive? Obviously it's a complex issue as, like it or not, China is intertwined in our economy. And it will be painful to break that hold. But Canada will need to go through some short-term pain for long-term gain with China. In a country of 38M vs 1.4B it's going to be a monumental task. But sitting by and hoping the US and Australia figure out how to do it is not feasible for now and the future.

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