[JohnnyB]

I'm not saying Canada shouldn't take any stand. I'm saying visas are a stupid way to take a stand and the Canadian government should find better ways to do so if taking a stand is the intent. I'm also saying Canada should be cautious to take a stand according to Canadian interests, which include Canadian values, rather than getting caught up alongside American and Australian positions that are pretty extreme. Does Canada really want to be aligned with the values of the current US and Australia?

I don't take offense when Pete Moss says I'm in a bubble, because we're all ultimately in bubbles. I understand that, but I've also split my adult life between Canada and China, and following the relationship between China and the West has been a big part of that for over a decade. And, I'm not even a supporter of the CCP. If anything I have been a strong detractor. There are serious and legitimate concerns that I recognize, probably much more poignantly than others on this site as I am actually impacted by them and so are my friends. But I also think that the popular narratives about China in Canada are still largely driven by ignorance. Over the years that ignorance has moved from lack of interest, to naive interest and hype to now fearful ignorance bordering on xenophobia associated with growing populist nationalism. Many views here are also formed in bubbles and people should be less quick to react emotionally based on pretty limited or one sided info.