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Old 07-07-2020, 10:03 AM   #953
Lanny_McDonald
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Originally Posted by Monahammer View Post
Please acknowledge the reality that the team you proposed wouldn't be able to limp into the playoffs next season, let alone 2 seasons from now with Voracek eating a huge chunk of the cap and likely being worthless.
WTF? Wouldn't limp into the playoffs? Are you on crack?

You are aware that Voracek is top 10 RW in the game and is showing zero signs of slowing down? He is not injury prone and just contributes consistently from year to year. No one has been able to point to why Voracek is all of sudden going to fall to pieces, except because he is over 30. Yet the same people are arguing that Giordano will play well into his 40s. Do I really need to point out that Giordano has missed more games than Voracek since the last shortened season?

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Myers is a great pickup, and should undoutedly be part of the return from Philly. to me the philly trade looks like this:

Patrick or Frost (I personally prefer Patrick) + Myers+ Sanheim + 1st 2020
Wait, what? You're suggesting a three player + a 1st swap for a player? First, when was the last time that happened? Second, why the hell would Philly trade away TWO of their top young defensemen? Not doable. Third, you're not trading for the pick in 2020, you're trading for the pick in 2021. The Flames won't trade Gaudeau until they have Hall in the bag, and they can't sign Hall until after the draft is complete. So unless they like the guy the Flyers picked in the past draft, that doesn't make sense.

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The salary absolutely does work for philly to take on Johnny.
In fact, there are multiple teams that can take on johnny and his value contract while delivering us much less salary in return. You make it sound so cut and dry, but value contracts like Johnny's hold even more return value over the next few years with a flat cap. Players with large value and little impetus to trade (from our end) can absolutely be traded without aligning the salary.
That doesn't work for Philadelphia. They have $65M committed to 13 players. Add Gaudreau and that goes to $69. That means they have to add 9-10 bodies on $11M. Did I mention three of those bodies are RFAs and are Robert Hagg, Oskar Lindblom, and Nolan Patrick? And then they have to be ready for Carter Hart and Sam Morin's contact expirations the following year with only Scott Laughton's $2.6M contact of consequence coming off the books. It's not doable for Philly without moving a big salary. That's just the way things work.
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