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Vinny01 · 07-07-2020, 08:55 AM

Money in money out is not as necessary when the trade is made in the offseason. The Devils and Sabres can easily take back Johnny’s contract and send little to no cap back the other way.

The Flames certainly do not need to take the more expensive and older player when they are moving the best player in the trade. This proposed trade accomplishes very little of why I think the Flames should move Gaudreau.

For me if Taylor Hall is not signing here I don’t even trade Johnny this summer. In order to sign Hall and fill out the roster they need to shed some money. Getting most of Johnny’s cap hit off without taking back another expensive piece allows them to have the flexibility to sign Hall.

Rather not take back a bunch of pieces that need expansion protection. This deal adds 3 pieces that require protection. It exposes Gio and at least one of Dube, Mangipane, Frost unless they are exposing Voracek which would make sense. Johnny is traded for depth and in one year that depth is lessened by expansion.

The whole Frost over Cozens arguement screams Frost fanboy to me. There was literally an article written yesterday on the top 50 drafted prospects and Cozens was 1 while Frost was 28th. One is a big center with speed the other is an average sized, and average at best skating. Comparing stats across the CHL leagues can be tricky and the Dub is typically known as the lower scoring league of the 3.

To each their own but I prefer a top draft pick in the upcoming draft as the centerpiece of the deal. If we are looking at the Hamilton deal a player like Reinhart is who you target not Frost. The Hamilton trade brought in 2 former 5th overall picks who had yet to breakout. Morgan Frost to me is a Dillon Dube comparable. Good player to have but not the one you give up your best offensive player for.

New Era’s deal shakes the Flames up but leaves no room to add Hall in free agency and exposes more talent to expansion. That coupled with the Voracek contract that is overpaid today for 60pts and is unlikely to look any better with a flat cap and more years and miles on the body.

Give up the best player and get back the oldest player with the biggest contract? Those trades always work out.

Why don’t we shift focus and package Backlund, Dube and Andersson for a top 5 RW in the game? Maybe we can get Brayden Point for that because he is from Calgary?

07-07-2020, 08:55 AM	#930
Vinny01 Franchise Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CGY Exp:	Money in money out is not as necessary when the trade is made in the offseason. The Devils and Sabres can easily take back Johnny’s contract and send little to no cap back the other way. The Flames certainly do not need to take the more expensive and older player when they are moving the best player in the trade. This proposed trade accomplishes very little of why I think the Flames should move Gaudreau. For me if Taylor Hall is not signing here I don’t even trade Johnny this summer. In order to sign Hall and fill out the roster they need to shed some money. Getting most of Johnny’s cap hit off without taking back another expensive piece allows them to have the flexibility to sign Hall. Rather not take back a bunch of pieces that need expansion protection. This deal adds 3 pieces that require protection. It exposes Gio and at least one of Dube, Mangipane, Frost unless they are exposing Voracek which would make sense. Johnny is traded for depth and in one year that depth is lessened by expansion. The whole Frost over Cozens arguement screams Frost fanboy to me. There was literally an article written yesterday on the top 50 drafted prospects and Cozens was 1 while Frost was 28th. One is a big center with speed the other is an average sized, and average at best skating. Comparing stats across the CHL leagues can be tricky and the Dub is typically known as the lower scoring league of the 3. To each their own but I prefer a top draft pick in the upcoming draft as the centerpiece of the deal. If we are looking at the Hamilton deal a player like Reinhart is who you target not Frost. The Hamilton trade brought in 2 former 5th overall picks who had yet to breakout. Morgan Frost to me is a Dillon Dube comparable. Good player to have but not the one you give up your best offensive player for. New Era’s deal shakes the Flames up but leaves no room to add Hall in free agency and exposes more talent to expansion. That coupled with the Voracek contract that is overpaid today for 60pts and is unlikely to look any better with a flat cap and more years and miles on the body. Give up the best player and get back the oldest player with the biggest contract? Those trades always work out. Why don’t we shift focus and package Backlund, Dube and Andersson for a top 5 RW in the game? Maybe we can get Brayden Point for that because he is from Calgary? Last edited by Vinny01; 07-07-2020 at 08:59 AM.