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Old 07-06-2020, 11:30 PM   #62
jeffh
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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan View Post
Company I work for is doing the 17th Avenue Stampede Crossing LRT Bridge. At Project award the Project Manager decided not to have a project kick off meeting and got a sublet drafting company to do the work without consulting anyone else in the company.

So once the shop drawings were ready for Approval he asks me (Drafting Manager) if someone can check the job. I asked him what do you mean by this plus a few other job related questions. We have 4 Fabrication plants one of which specializes in Bridges, so I advised him that the Bridge plant has very different standards and marking conventions than our other plants. It would result in needing about two weeks and 40% of the drafting budget to have these guys redo the work to suit now. Told him he should have at least let us (Drafting) know at the outset as we could have provided this information at the beginning. PM says not a big deal this will be done at our other plant he was trying to not spend his $1000 drafting support budget (Total project value is 1.2 million). This might have cost him $100....

Anyways all drawings get Aporoved and it's time to send for Fabrication, it is determined that the Bridge Plant will do the work. So they insist on having the drawings redone because they think they will make $15000 in screw ups. I challenged them asking them to prove it would be that bad and to identify the more critical items that will help productio to keep the rework costs down. Basically spending $1000 to save $1000 is not economically worth it. It's not an ideal situation, but if it was sublet fabrication work, would we insist it get redrawn after the fact. At this point any new money is coming out of the project's overall budget.

Plant Manager sends out an Email that Drafting and Project Management will not dictate how the drawings will be done and that they are to be fixed regardless of cost and that he will backcharge drafting for any time his shop is empty waiting for the new drawings beginning now. His Superintendent....agreed with me and said he would do as I suggested since it was a smaller project.

Was I the AH here? The PM deserves a bit of the blame...but I think this Plant Manager is really out of line here.
Sounds like a classic example of Pour now, Chip Later.

It’s a bit tough to say if the Plant Manager is truly being an AH, as I think he is anticipating being f’d around and hurting his labour costs. As tough as it can be to get accurate and complete shop drawings, more of the fault lies with the PM for not going through the proper steps. This is critical infrastructure after all. If the Plant Manager can get assurances in writing, and still refuses to budge, than he is an AH. I see you as just being stuck in the middle.
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