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Originally Posted by New Era
Agreed. Patrick is a non-starter. The risk of him getting injured and not playing again is way too high. Hard pass as a piece for Gaudreau.
Actually, Voracek makes all the sense in the world. He's an elite RW in this league, is durable, has size, is not showing signs of slowing down, and fills a massive positional need on this team. He is also a controlled contract for the next five years which covers the contracts of our core players. Who cares if he's 10 years older than Tkachuk or makes more money. This is about addressing needs of the hockey team, and this team is in dire need of a top end RW.
Hahaha. That's funny. You are NOT getting that type of quality at the trade deadline, especially for a player that might only play 12-15 games. You only get that quality when you make a hockey trade. Your expectations are completely out of whack.
That is the statement of the obvious. Philly has no reason to trade him.
Tkachuk's deal is covered. Unless the Flames prospects continue to #### the bed and they don't have some cost controlled assets in play Tkachuk's contract add will be covered with the loss of players on the current roster.
Also disagree on the need for the deal. The deal is about right now and the future. The Flames can't make the same mistake they made when they signed Bouwmeester and held onto Phaneuf. They should have made the signing then immediately dealt away the player they knew would have to go in the future. Gaudreau is that player. If they bring in Hall, Gaudreau has to go before the next season opens. Gaudreau can return the immediate need and the future players the team desperately needs. This is a trade that checks all the boxes of the players the Flames should be looking for..
Top end RW? Check.
Young center with big potential? Check.
RH blueline depth? Check.
This is a deal that sets the Flames up for success IMO, and does so with as little risk as possible. The team is getting known quantities and players that can play and contribute right now. When making a trade you are going to have to eat similar salary coming back, so you better make sure that salary is providing a lift in areas of need. This is sheer win.
One last point, there is way too much risk with including draft picks. When you trade a star player to another team for draft picks you receive are diminishing returns. Odds are that the team we move Gaudreau to is going to get better and those future picks will drop several slots. So if you're trading for what you think is a 15-20 pick, the odds are that Gaudreau is going to make that a 20-25 pick. A player of his caliber is good enough to move a team enough points to drop five or picks in the draft. When that happens you are grabbing players that have longer development curves and are less likely to achieve their potential. This is why you trade for young guys that are already developed to the NHL level. You know what you're getting. The draft pick is magic beans.
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Acquiring voracek is such a laughably ridiculous proposition. His contract makes it futile to consider and no way could we afford hall while icing a proper defense afterwards. If we're trading johnny we can't take back a longer, bigger contract from a 30+ player on the decline