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Old 07-06-2020, 12:19 PM   #838
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix View Post
And yet their future looks considerably better than ours. You omit their owner's expectations for playoffs and the fact that their rebuild didn't officially start until a couple years after ours. He was forced to try to win with the Sedins as shadows of their former selves. He of course said their expectations were to win, it was a foolish direction from his boss.

Their window is about to open big time. If you want to attribute that to luck and no plan, that's up to you. Has our window even opened yet? I honestly can't tell. Whatever BT is doing, at least he has the smooth corporate speak down pat. Personally, I'll take the guy that can draft any day over whatever strengths you say BT has. His biggest strength seems to be selling people on a vision for the team that takes 7+ years to achieve. The 'process' is actually selling people on the process. He's an empty suit as far as I'm concerned. It should not take 7 years to build a contender, and we aren't even there yet. Not by a long shot. Why do people think this current mediocrity is acceptable? We should be much better, we've had since 2013 to build something special and this management has failed us. Stability in management is only a good thing when the manager is actually delivering results.
And you omit our owner's expectations and the fact that guys like King (RIP) put themselves into decisions which affected the way BT operated.

If you want to just have a rant about BT go wild, all the empty suit business just seems pretty childish, but go for it. I don't even think Treliving is great, but I don't share the same issues you have that seem a little more personal.

If we're looking at it objectively, though, Treliving has had more success than Benning thus far, and the idea that "Benning had a plan all along!" is pretty silly, when he has his own mountainous share of mistakes.

Sure, they have some promising looking draft picks, but how a future looks isn't predictive of how it'll be, and you can't judge a GM based on a future that hasn't happened yet. Not to hockey-Godwin the conversation, but I've heard plenty of cries about how great the future looks for some teams and how being elite is just a foregone conclusion. Feel free to take the highway up north to see how rocky the road can be between a "high potential" team and an "elite" team.

It's great that the Canucks have a great handful of prospects. Before we actually sing Benning's praises, maybe lets watch to see how his habit of costly mistakes helps them reach the status you apparently feel they should already get credit for.
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