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Old 06-30-2020, 07:14 PM   #3759
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My point is that many of the protests are turning violent or about wrecking and burning stuff and not about actually protesting what the original issue was.

I know that is hard for someone like PsYcNeT to understand, but it is what is happening.
"many" of the protests are not turning violent. At this point rarely are the protests violent, most of them are extremely peaceful, but you wouldn't know that because peaceful protests get zero attention. The media doesn't care about peaceful protests. Which makes one wonder how effective they actually are at getting anything done.


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The violence seems to always be preceded by the police initiating it. The times when the police have backed off of their heavy handed tactics the protests have remained almost entirely violence free. It’s almost like the cause is the same thing being protested. Wild.
This is extremely accurate. During the first week of protests here in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh police deployed tear gas, pepper spray, rubber bullets, etc. Those are the only protests that got at all violent. Once the mayor got the police to stand down a little bit, we've had weeks of peaceful protesting with zero incidents.

Almost like when the police don't brutalize people, when the police aren't causing the chaos, the protests about police brutality remain calm and incident-free.


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Every day I'm amazed at the idea of defunding the police. Until I come here and realize how people actually look at the police and hold them solely responsible for all the wrongs that are being committed.
Here in the US public services are constantly being defunded. Schools are the biggest victim of this. Police never have their budgets touched, they just keep getting bigger and bigger, to the detriment of the community.

We insist that teachers continue to do their jobs on limited budgeting, it's about time we get police to do the same. Shift that money to better schooling, better access to services for the homeless, counseling for the mentally ill, etc etc.

It's not just saying we eliminate all the police. It's about properly using the budgets that we have to focus on the problems that exist, and armed, militant police are rarely the fix for those problems.
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