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Originally Posted by GGG
I don’t think anyone is actually saying this.
Independant of this situation Do you believe that at some point when an Officers life is threatened He has the right to respond with lethal force?
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Yes. Pretty much 100% of the time. Against the threat obviously. Never ever against anyone innocent.
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Originally Posted by GGG
Do you believe that at some point when an Officers life is threatened he has the right to respond with lethal force even if there is risk of an innocent person dying (stray bullet or something)
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Aim for the center of mass. Limits the possibility of injury to the innocent, which should be the ultimate goal in any lethal confrontation. If your decision isn't limiting the risk to public, or at least not reasonably expected to reduce the risk, I don't support it.
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Originally Posted by GGG
If you believe that Officers have at some point the right to defend themselves and that innocent people could be hurt in this defense then not much separates you from the posters you are criticizing. It’s really just a matter of degree that you believe the officers life is at risk and the amount of risk to the public that is acceptable for the officer to protect themselves. Having a discussion around when these thresholds are breached would be much more productive than accusing people of not caring about teenagers and calling cops pigs.
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That's not true at all. I've always been supporting of personal defense. See my responses in the Michael Brown thread. But it's limited to the actual threat and it's about limiting the risk to the public.
If the police ran over one guy who was shooting at them, I wouldn't bat an eye. If they ran over a bunch of teenagers, I would be livid and...oh wait that happened here.
Driving away from an active shooter (in their mind), hitting dozens of innocent people (now leaving them to be shot) and leaving behind their fellow officers make these officers lower than scum. That's not eliminating the threat, that's not reducing the risk to the innocent. It's the exact the opposite.