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Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout
Good question.
I believe the appropriate next action is to start ramming the police car into oncoming traffic, t-boning as many cars as possible.
Seriously, if the first car doesn't yield the next should. Its a reasonable expectation that the first car into the intersection may not hear/see the police car.
Keep in mind in your example the comparator is more the police car is at a red light, no emergency, and wanting to move with traffic going through the intersection blocking him due to their green light.
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Now to the topic at hand, (commenting in general and not specifically to Azure) where the officer goes from having the self defense argument to losing it is when he clears the crowd, stops, then instantly rams the protester again speeding away with him on the hood.
There is no justification for that. None.
Even if you believe the car clearing the crowd was justified (which without debating its merits, is a reasonable belief) once clear and stopped, the threat is over for the moment, even if only for a few seconds. The officer then should have cleared the scene entirely without hitting the protestor that was in front of him. They should have given that protester the ability to move. The officer did not.
That is unjustified. Regardless of any defense of self safety, that was inexcusable.
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You know why it is a good question? Because it rarely, if ever happens. Most times people get out of the way, or worst case scenario they jump the curb and keep going.
I'm sure all of us have experienced an emergency vehicle coming behind you, or in front and not really being able to move out of the way due to the traffic or whatever. And yet, somehow it works out and you never really hear about this guy getting t-boned, or that guy keep run over.
I wonder why that is....
As for what you think SHOULD have happened, I agree. Given the circumstances, the cop should have tried to do everything in his power to force the protesters to clear out and move away. But, given what has been going on, and how violent the protests came become, I understand that the situation can deteriorate very quickly, so I don't think its fair to sit here and say and judge. It is an impossible situation.
At the end of the day, there is a bias going on, and it is very evident that one specific poster in this thread has been caught up in the idea that 'cops just want to stir sh&t up.' Unfortunately that is far from the truth, but if you come from that viewpoint, there is nothing the cops can do in a situation like the one we are talking about where it would have been the 'right' move.
Think about that for a second. Imagine being in a situation where no matter what you do, it'll be the wrong response. Why would anyone want to be a cop anymore? That is how far we've come.
Sad really, because the end result here will be you won't have to defund the police. They are just going to quit.