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Originally Posted by schteve_d
This is why I said you were too stupid to argue with; your reading comprehension is atrocious. That was not an argument, it was a "what if". I didn't know, and you didn't know. As more information came out, granted some of it you provided, my argument evolved.
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Dude, you can't cry about your argument being distorted when you keep trying to say that I'm calling a window smasher or hood jumper (if they exist at all) as peaceful when that is clearly not my argument, nor has it ever been. I'm talking about the dozens who didn't jump on the hood, who had no idea there was an apparent window smasher.
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Originally Posted by schteve_d
I stand by what I originally said.
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I know you do. I knew you would no matter what. I said as much:
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
It doesn't matter where he was going or what the call was (hint: there was no call, otherwise any of the vehicles behind him would have turned around safely). He was in a situation where he put people willfully in danger and than exploited it and will use him fearing for his safety as cover for driving over a bunch of otherwise peaceful teens. And you'll support him for it, and then wonder why the peaceful protesters get angry.
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That's the problem. There was no context that would change your view. If he was trying to get a call, that's fine. If he wasn't, that's also fine. If he said he was in danger? That's not only fine, but now he has a duty to run over as many of these menaces he could!
Police know this. That's the root of the problem right now. Everyone (Black) is a threat. Or can be perceived as a threat. Police have a literal get-out-of-jail-card when they "fear for their safety" so run over a bunch of people chanting at you and hurting your feelings, as long as you say you thought there was a shooting, you're fine. They couldn't even honk before they decided to run over these people. We're extremely lucky we're only talking about a couple hospitalizations and not death, and we aren't talking about people who were participating knowingly in a riot, a second before they got hit their was nothing to indicate that there was any violence (if there was at all).
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Originally Posted by schteve_d
The shift that is happening absolutely needs to happen and I support it. We can not have a lawless society in the meantime. It is unfortunate that people are using the needed change for cover for their own agenda or comeuppance, and even profit. It detracts from the real issues.
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Lawless? This guy ran over a bunch of people because someone sat on his hood. Which is more lawless?
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Originally Posted by schteve_d
I have seen videos where the police are clearly wrong,
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I know you have, you watched this video.
My point is this; Police have a duty to protect. Not just innocent citizens they like, but innocent citizens who are mean to them. Running over innocent people should never be tolerated. Ever. There should be no context that makes it okay. You shouldn't need to try and justify someone chanting at a police officer as a non-peaceful protester deserving of getting ran over.
When people say Black Lives Matter, they mean even those who yell at cops.