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Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
Disagree. Phaneuf had his 60 point, Norris runner up season without Hamrlik. Hamrlik was definitely a good player and mentor for him but Dion had his best season without him. Phaneuf was very good in his first 3 seasons, he had hip issues that seemed to derail him.
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Maybe you're correct, but wasn't he also heavily sheltered that year? I could be miss remembering, but that Norris reputation was quickly followed by the whole "he's not even the best defenseman on his team" mantra. I liked Dion, but the shine wore off pretty quick as the years progressed. At least for me.
Anyways, this is an easy Macinnis vote for me. 28+ Gio vs 28+ Al might be a different story, but Al was a #1 from his early 20's on. While Gio didn't hit his full stride until he was half way through his career. Gio is the obvious second choice though.