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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
I guess I’m gunshy on homering trades the other way; on the forums it seems that the trade suggestions are either ‘laughably bad’ for us or ‘there is no way they would do that’ type reactions. What’s the middle ground?? It would be nice to talk about suggestions that way as opposed to always having them scoffed at for being too good or too bad for the flames.
I had originally typed it out as:
Tkachuk + Jankowski for 3rd overall + 5th overall + White
But i deleted that thinking it was too much in our favour.
I went with 3rd (Byfield, potential top 6 centre) and Colin White (23 YO right handed centre who still has growth) because the Flames were signing Hall in my scenario and we are left wing Heavy.
Is Tkachuk + Janko for 3rd + 5th + White closer??
To put it in perspective I was talking about this with a friend who is a Leafs fan and he said if Calgary wanted the 3rd and 5th it would cost them Tkachuk and Gaudreau which is obviously laughable as well.
Can we not talk about/build on suggestions though rather than taking big dumps on them? Would prove to be a more enjoyable thread at least for myself... haven’t been posting much because covid has taken the joys of sports away and getting a response like that after not posting for months is probably going to make me just not bother logging in for a bit but Wte.
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Nothing wrong with posting trade speculation, but you leave yourself open for criticism, I think, if your proposal is outlandish.
I don’t think either team pulls the trigger on your Flames/Senators proposals. Look at the organizational direction for each and their current situations. The Senators are firmly if the ‘rebuilding’ phase while the Flames are a good team looking to take the next step and become a contender, at least that is how I see it. Simply put, the Senators are not about to trade two top 5 picks and a promising prospect for a player who has two years left on his deal and will need a $10M QO next time around. Seems very un-Senator/Melnyk like to me. Throwing Jankowski in likely doesn’t move the needle either.
On the other hand, why would the Flames trade, arguably, their best player who is 22 and is only getting better? What indication has there been, ever, that the Flames would even explore trading Tkachuk at this point? The way I see it is the Flames are going to be building around Tkachuk. Not Stutzle, or Byfield, or Drysdale, or whoever they might rake at that slot. If you have been paying attention to the Flames organization over the past 15 years or so, they tend to want to compete. ‘Tanking’ or openly rebuilding is not something they willingly take part in.
The writing appears to be on the wall for Gaudreau. There’s way too much chatter locally and elsewhere that points to his departure and this offseason seems to be the window for the Flames to do it. They have control and they can look to pick up assets to build around Tkachuk and their under 25 age group with.