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Old 06-27-2020, 03:43 PM   #3570
Derek Sutton
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree View Post
It’s nobody’s job to make you feel less apathetic about the treatment of people who are Black, or gay, or Indigenous, etc. That’s your job. Do it or don’t, but don’t have a fit about minorities are making it easy for you not to care. That seems like a “you” issue.

To that point, it’s being told what you can and can’t say without consequence, it’s being told what you should or shouldn’t say to avoid negative consequences, it’s not just being told what is or isn’t offensive, it’s people sharing that these things are or aren’t actually offensive to them, it’s sharing a different perspective to your own.

I’m just not sure why this seems like a new and dangerous idea to you. History both current and past is absolutely littered with words that carry consequences. You can’t tell your boss he’s a ####ing loser without risking consequences. You can’t call your wife a dirty skank without risking consequences. You can’t call your kids pathetic bastards and say you don’t love them without risking consequences. And you can’t sit around in a work meeting and say n***** without consequences. So, why are you acting like this is a novel idea? Because you’re mad people can’t say the n-word without consequences? Really?

Like welcome to the same world you were born into. Words carry consequences. Nobody can stop you from saying any word you want whether directed to someone or not, but words have consequences and you need to grow up and figure that out because it’s not new.

If you want to have a discussion around whether the consequences are too harsh for certain words, that’s a really valid discussion to have. But if you whining about words having consequences period, I’m not sure what planet you’re living on.


Actually the world I was born into was one of: "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me." And the world has changed quite a bit since then. Unfortunately many people refuse the change along with it.

One thing I want to be clear on is that it's not me personally, I like to think I'm fairly knowledgeable in what is socially unacceptable and why and I understand it is ever changing. I'm not throwing a fit over anything....That being said, I also do have some family members with racist and homophobic views, some based on complete ignorance and some on religion, two different cans of worms. So for this thread I'm going to stick with the race and ignorance. And there are many more out there in the world, that's why we are in this mess.

You know the "go back to where you came from crowd"? This was my Dad, the anti immigrant population? Yah, thats my sister (she has other issues as well). Their education background is not extensive, their understanding of US history and race relations, minimal, their reality, blurred. Honestly they have a very childish mentality in that the first thing they wanna do when they are told not to or they shouldn't do something is do it. "All Lives Matter" "Yes Dad but they are trying to bring awareness to the mistreatment of person of color by the police, thats why Black Lives Matter is appropriate." "Well no black life is more important the any other life, All Lives Matter!!". These are the types of people that the world needs to get through to and theres a lot of them, telling them what they can and can't say does not solve this problem, looting and rioting does not solve this problem.
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