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Originally Posted by Itse
These threads are hopeless, it's like listening to a bunch of lunatics trying to figure out what's wrong with them. It's obvious from the outside just how much is wrong, but you can't see it yourself because you're all ultimately part of the same culture.
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Well, it's certainly one possibility that this thread is exclusively the domain of lunatics who can't appreciate the obvious truth when it's presented to them, and that you're the only sane one out of all of us.
Another possibility is that the arguments you've presented haven't been sufficient to persuade people that you're right. It's not like people don't believe that these policies exist in other countries, in varying forms. It's that people seem to think those policies are a bad idea, or that the fact that they exist doesn't actually demonstrate that it's easy - or effective - to shoot an attacker in the leg to disable him.
I'm just not sure why you're so strident about this. It's like you have a personal stake or some close connection to the issue. If there's some specialized expertise you have on this, why not share it? Zulu's and WhiteTiger's perspectives have I think been valuable for that very reason.
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Originally Posted by JeanLucPicard
Public's job is to be aggressive and loud, to force the government to make the rational decisions.
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Good lord. I think this is a terrible prescription. You're acting like the public should behave as an angry mob. Not only does that never end well regardless of the context, but it certainly doesn't produce measured, thoughtful policy decisions on the part of government, who are trying to appease the mob. All in all I'd say this is a really bad take.