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Old 06-07-2020, 07:51 PM   #1471
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix View Post
Sounds really difficult to gauge. They seem to be projecting because so many show no symptoms. Probably won't know the full extent truly for a good while.

The following quote stuck with me

"So far there has been 1 death every 1,166 people under 65 years old (compared to 1 death every 358 people in the general population). And 89% of the times, the person who died had one or more underlying medical conditions."

I realize those numbers go up as more people get it but they just don't seem to justify the reaction. I know it's hindsight but I just assumed that the scientists and medical community wouldn't push for these measures unless they absolutely had to. I don't know, sorry if i came across and cold and uncaring that is not the case. I feel horrible for anyone who died of this or any other sickness, I just think there was some over reaction. We can't destroy the economy the next time a virus like this pops up, we just can't. I'm not some money grubber but many lives have been ruined here, lives that may never recover. Jobs are gone that aren't coming back and small businesses are dying.

Maybe they slowed it down a bit and eased the burden on the medical system but I feel like they used a hammer when more delicate tools were required. I don't know, I don't trust the government to handle basic things so I doubt them here. Think about it, if the virus killed 1/10 of the people it does, they don't shut everything down. There is a certain threshold that triggers a reaction like that. If it kills 40,000 instead of 400,000 there is no way are they doing what they are doing. What is the threshold? Where is the line drawn regarding saving thousands of human lives vs destroying the lives of millions? It's an interesting philosophical question at the very least.

We wouldn't stab ourselves in the stomach to kill a mosquito but that's kind of what we did. I read an article that said it will take a decade to recover unless something else pops up which it almost assuredly will. Whether its a another virus, natural disasters, oil crashing, wars, the stock market crashing, civil right riots, fascist ideals taking root in the Western world or a million other things, it's just one thing after the other. It's must see tv for kodos and kang but I'm sick of it.

But you're making the cardinal mistake that so many have made in attributing the numbers WITH the shutdowns and measures to what we would have had WITHOUT shutdowns and measures. It's so common with those that feel there should have been no measures.

The likely outcome in a place like Alberta with business as usual would have been closer to Italy than Iceland and we'd be lamenting high hundreds, likely thousands dead.

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