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Old 06-07-2020, 12:06 AM   #180
Acey
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon View Post
so as long as Canadian police don't shoot too many people with knives that don't really need to be shot that's ok?
The point is that the many of the people being killed by police were not holding knives, but firearms. Since this has devolved into a discussion that has nothing to do with the original incident, it's worth mentioning firearms because even if North American police stop shooting people with knives our numbers would still be through the roof.

I understand that the thread is an attack on police tactics, but I believe it's attacking the wrong specific problem.

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Originally Posted by MarchHare View Post
According to your link, firearm possession in Canada (34.7 guns per 100 people) is not too dissimilar to Norway (28.8). If you are correct, and the number of police killings correlates with firearm ownership, then we could expect that cops in Canada would kill their citizens about 20% more often than cops in Norway. In actuality, Canadian cops use lethal force 410% more often than Norwegian cops.

Oh, and Switzerland, the magical fantasy nation that ammosexuals like to use as a counter-example in every gun control thread because there's a military-grade rifle in almost every Swiss home, reported zero police killings.
I don't care about Switzerland and made no mention of it, all I'm saying is that since the majority of police killings are firearm related, then firearm metrics are of value.

Cherry picking numbers is the name of this game, so one could be that Canada has 7x the homicide rate by firearm vs Norway. You could argue that the people killing other people with firearms are those most likely to be killed by the police. So if Canadians are 7x more likely to kill somebody with a firearm... it would make sense that Canadians are more likely to be killed by police firearm.

In general, I don't support the police for obvious reasons... but I rate this thread zero stars.

Last edited by Acey; 06-07-2020 at 12:14 AM.
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