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Old 05-20-2020, 02:07 PM   #9
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The battle of Vienna in 1529. This one was actually so close to being an epic failure too.

After taking Constantinople, the Ottomans viewed themselves as the legal and rightful successor to the Roman Empire. They saw the Holy Roman Empire as usurpers and want to defeat them badly and Vienna was the gate city to take

For the most part, Austria was really under equipped and were under siege so hard, many Austrians had actually fled or had to be held up in the citadel. The Ottomans dug tunnels under the castle were bombing under the castle as well.

Certain defeat looked imminent. Austria had appealed for weeks for reinforcements from the Polish and Lithuanians who said they would come, but they still weren't there. But then just as people starting accepting their fate, the Pole and Lithuanians slowly sauntered on the the field well rested and ready to go. It ended up being a route as by that time, the Ottomans were exhausted.That was the last time the Ottomans ever attempted,

The show that the Polish and Lithuanians put on was for effect. It was common when countries in Europe needed help, they would agree by also try to show them who is more powerful.

If you read or watch videos about Michael the Brave who tried to form alliances in Romanian states to fight back the Ottomans, it was non-stop back stabbing. There are similar stories about the Reconquista in Spain. One Spanish King actually requested a Crusade again another fellow Christian Kingdom. Europe just had such little cohesion or ideals honor during those time. The Turks and Arabs in Spain were equally as dumb in a lot ways too. They could not resist pillaging and taking slaves. Some estimates say 7-8% of the people travelling with their armies were Christian slave. It slowed down their advances and retreats.

The Arabs that conquered southern Spain and called it Al-Andalus were also buttheads in a lot of ways. They became obsessed with northern white girls and brought them back to Al-Andalus after raiding into France and sold for wives and slaves. They were described as: "beautiful, yellow haired, blue eyes, slim with large breasts and thick legs". It got to the point that the society went into civil strife when Arab men could not marry off their daughters since white slave girls were cheaper to buy. As a side note, these activities in Spain were one of the events that became a symbol for anti-Semetism in Europe. Since there were many Jewish merchants that traveled in Spain and with the Arabs in North Africa and Al-Andalus, the Jews tended to be the brokers of the captured slaves, mainly because they were usually educated and were multi-lingual.

Sorry, that got off the tracks a little.
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