[CaptainCrunch]

Here's my thoughts on it


TFA was a fairly solid movie, but the problem was it was almost a note for remake/reboot of a New Hope. The new characters really weren't epic characters, Poe to me was pretty flat. Having Kyle as a petulant spastic villain didn't do much good, but he was ok. They created some really interesting echos, who was Snoke? Why had Ben fallen? Who was Rey lined to? It created a lot of buzz. The ot characters really outshined and were more likeable then the ST characters. Killing Solo was exceptionally well done, especially with the lighting effects. The duel between Kylo and Rey was good, though the fact that she was so naturally powerful in fight with no training created a lot of questions, They did a nice job of incoporating Palpatines fight mannerisms into the fight, and also Anakins.




The Last Jedi - An absolute mess, Rian turned out to be a terrible choice. Took a lot of the things in the first movie and chucked them away. The awkward and terrible Rose and Finn storyline. Playing Hux for laughs. Killing Snoke like a Red shirted yeoman. The poorly done cave scene for Rey. In the end the movie only served to confuse everyone not create intriguing questions. Poe was an idiot, this was supposed to be his growing and maturing movie, but in the end it didn't really do that. This movie was a mess, and in the end wasn't all that entertaining, it didn't have a lot of energy to draw you in.



ROS - I think that JJ went aw frack Rian wrecked any storyline, now what do I do. I know fan service. Brings back Palpatine who instead of being cagey and underhanded comes across as the movie of the week monster. We see the nights of ren get butchered in 2 seconds. Rose is given the Jar Jar. Hux's character was completely wasted in two seconds. Worst evil super weapon design ever. Really bizarre wrap up of Ren as a character and a redemption arc that really didn't elicit any emotions, and a werider make out session. Palpatine is defeated by crossed swords. Bring in Kerri Russell as a major announcement, and don't use her. Lando creeping up on his potential daughter. Too much stuff packed into the movie. A nice visual ending.



As much as Kathleen Kennedy didn't help with her own rewrites and insistent storyline beats. The two people that really trashed the ST were Rian, with his terrible movie and nonsensical BS instincts and storylines. And then JJ for panicking and trying to fix it with fan service galore.



Could the Trilogy have been salvaged after the 2nd movie, possibly, I think the smart move would have been to deathly hallows it and make the ROS a two parter, and done things to establish the return of Palpatine and really build up what he was doing. I also believe strongly that Kathleens insistant on firing Hayden and reducing Anakin to an after throught and her and JJ crapping all over the ending of the OT was a huge mistake. You absolutely have to have Anakin in the last scene against Palpatine it would have made a ton of sense. I think that things like the Sith device for finding Palpatine could have been done way better.



I still remember even on this board, that I liked TFA, and stated that, but TLJ killed my enthusiasm for the trilogy and though I went to see ROS I came out of the theatre, not even mad about it, but wondering if it was the end of Star Wars as a major movie franchise. There were exceptional Star Wars franchises out there in animated world. But this trilogy killed the movies for me because as much as we talk about PT and there were some real doozies in there, there was a comprehensive storyline and the characters were developed really well. From Padme to Anakin to Kenobi to Palpatine and even Yoda, at least these characters made some sense and were doing something that made sense.


What killed ST was the incomprehensible storylines that changed gears with the sound of a breaking transmissions and then an attempt to fix it and making it somehow worse.



The storyline in the ST was in the end terrible.