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Old 02-04-2007, 05:08 PM   #14
jolinar of malkshor
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i'm talking aboot the current state of reprisals, that ancient past is the ancient past and the majority of jewish settlers moving to palestine before 1948 were ashkenazim, or european, jews.

people care more for who killed their father then who killed their ancient ancestor, this 'steady violence for millenia' is over-hyped crap.

the crusades etc. were bad, yes, but compared to what went on in europe or asia or pick your spot, the holy land just does not stand out in terms of strife and arabs and jews have coexisted across the middle east far more peacefully than many people scream aboot.

much of the mideast had been part of the ottoman empire and both arabs and jews were opressed and subjugated, there was some discrimination against non-muslims under the turks but that was mostly in the balkans where things were hot - point of fact the ottoman jews enjoyed a special status as facilitators and government bureaucrats, professionals, etc.

history just does not record this '2000 year feud' between jews and arabs over the holy land, they were both too busy being opressed by every one else.
That is my point....the land really belongs to a multitude of groups....it is time these groups forget the past, realize the future (that means Israel will be there for ever) and work toward peace.

As Azure has said, each group has ownership in all the problems.....but each group has ownership in solving them. When Hamas decides that they will not recognize Israel.....well.....enough said.
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