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Old 02-04-2007, 03:59 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor View Post
Why do you stop at 1800? Why dont you go back a little further....say 1500 to 2000 years back?
i'm talking aboot the current state of reprisals, that ancient past is the ancient past and the majority of jewish settlers moving to palestine before 1948 were ashkenazim, or european, jews.

people care more for who killed their father then who killed their ancient ancestor, this 'steady violence for millenia' is over-hyped crap.

the crusades etc. were bad, yes, but compared to what went on in europe or asia or pick your spot, the holy land just does not stand out in terms of strife and arabs and jews have coexisted across the middle east far more peacefully than many people scream aboot.

much of the mideast had been part of the ottoman empire and both arabs and jews were opressed and subjugated, there was some discrimination against non-muslims under the turks but that was mostly in the balkans where things were hot - point of fact the ottoman jews enjoyed a special status as facilitators and government bureaucrats, professionals, etc.

history just does not record this '2000 year feud' between jews and arabs over the holy land, they were both too busy being opressed by every one else.

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