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Old 03-10-2020, 02:53 PM   #92
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Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14 View Post
Firstly, "that cant be explained by other factors" was never asked. That's part of what made the original statement stupid.

If you'd like I can post clips but to be completely honest, if you dont believe time outs have any effect on the game, you've bottled my mind.

A little background, the timeout has been a part of the NHL since 1983, in which tens of thousands of games have been played. Time outs have been used to give scoring lines a chance to rest when a timely goal is needed, they have also been used to give defenders time to compose themselves after a lengthy shift. Finally it has been used by literally every team in the league to establish and execute a set play.

But time outs have no effect?
Hold on - we are probably talking about different things here.

I would agree a coach's time out is for sure effective at resting tired players, and I think that it what it should be saved for. I can also see how the timeout can be used to plan a set play. What I am questioning is whether coach's timeouts actually change momentum, which seems to be what many people here want them used for.

As for using a coach's timeout to change momentum, I'm asking for a study or evidence that shows such timeouts have real impacts on outcomes of games. I'd be interested to see any research like that - my theory is that this kind of timeout probably does not change momentum as much as we think.

Clips are not great evidence - they are anecdotal. What are they proving? What other explanations are there for the observed results?

How would one conduct such a study? I think you would have to show over many seasons if there is any change in goals for/against per minute after a "momentum" timeout, that can't be explained by other circumstances (ex. change in goaltending, the team with the lead sitting back).

Given that there are already three tv timeouts per period, what can be accomplished in a shorter coach's timeout, that can't be accomplished at the next tv break?
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