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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Endgame was far from a masterpiece. A lot of boring stretches. Really, it's the characters that carried the film, wanting to know their fates, more than the story itself, which was kind of drab.
Infinity was definitely more entertaining and well made.
But again, Marvel tops out at "fun" and tends to plateau there, so at least a high floor generally. But its ceiling is also limited, and hasn't brought us anything really groundbreaking since the very first set of films. They have a formula that puts people in the seats and keeps them from complaining generally. The sweet spot for any studio, but also a box for creativity.
The new Star Wars was aiming for the moon. Wanted to hit a home run on just about every front, and make every fan's dreams come true. Its aspirations were too ambitious, too soon. They jumped in before really considering every angle of what they were doing. Handing out future films to directors left and right, thinking they were on to something after TFA. Didn't take the time to flesh out the characters and plot cohesively and allow the vision to percolate long enough to get it right from that basic storytelling standpoint.
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You know the more I think about it, the more you are really right. There were way to many story elements happening at the same time, in the first movie TFA it some what jived together, but after that it just became a mis match of story moments.
The problem is that a lot of the story elements in the first movie didn't match to the second movie, and then the third movie ignored or discounted the second movie to the point where the third movie was an apology for the mess of the second movie story line wise to the point where I'm convinced that Palpatine was an emergency hot shot fan services that probably wasn't in the original plans for the Trilogy.
I mean it got to the point that it felt like there were bad transmission moments where things were so jarring.
Ie Ren let the past die, the past comes back in Palpatine, and Ren is onboard with it until his dad comes and talks to it.
The big ending moment from the TLJ with the little kid with the broom came to nothing.
The whole, the flame of the resistance has died, then suddenly they have a thousand ships.
The Snoke was a puppet, Palpatine was back.
It was almost like the trilogy was a house built by Homer Simpson without enough load bearing posters.