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Originally Posted by nfotiu
That's some convoluted logic.
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Not really....
I'm just suggesting that states the Democrats have no chance of winning in November shouldn't be used as a basis to determine who the Democratic nominee should be.
And I'm also just suggesting that states the Democrats will win in November should be used to evaluate what and who the base of the Democratic party wants.
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Originally Posted by nfotiu
Swing states like VA and NC matter, and Biden will bring house and senate seats from states like that which will help him govern.
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Of course they do.
I'm just not convinced that the voter turnout will be in full force in such states when the underlying base isn't happy about who is at the top of the ticket.
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Originally Posted by nfotiu
Over 48% of California voted for Biden and candidates who endorse Biden vs 33% for Sanders and 12% for Warren. How is that a huge margin of victory for Bernie? People can still vote in California until Friday, so who knows how that state even ends up, but it isn't trending in Bernie's favor.
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Your combined 48% figure for Biden presumes that many of the voters for those "other candidates for Biden" would have voted for Biden had the candidate that they actually voted for did not exist.
That is quite a presumption.
Look, in the end, I'm going to vote for the Democratic nominee for President.
But if that person happens to be Biden, I'm not going to be happy about it.
Deep down, he doesn't give a flying flip about me and I don't get the sense that he will, as President, try to do anything of any significance to try to improve my life. He is a corporatist, his best days are behind him (both mentally and age-wise), and his record sans-Obama is pretty underwhelming and, in parts, disgraceful.
Bernie is much too old for the job as well, but his convictions are clear and I don't think that anyone can reasonably argue that he would not, as President, try to make wholesale changes in a variety of areas for the betterment of the US. His ability to succeed is certainly in doubt, but at least he'd
try.
Which is way more than I think Biden is going to do for anyone other than his buddies.