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browna · 02-19-2020, 11:51 PM

And, before we go off too far on Sutter, Flames had a Game 7 vs Ana the next year after a terrible sequence which could’ve had the series over before 7 with a Huselius breakaway post turning in Game 5 turning into a Ducks PP to tie the game and the win in OT. Then Moss missing an empty net in OT Game 6 from taking the Wings to 7 in 2007. Next year, there again, losing 7 games the next playoffs vs Sharks. So he had the teams right there, they couldn’t get over that first round hump after decent regular seasons.

Sutter brought respectability back to the Flames, signings like Amonte, McCarty the first year were unheard of. Guys like Hamrlik chose the Flames. Bouwmeester. Cammaleri, Langkow, Jokinen on that trade deadline day in 2009 and made an immediate impact.

His trades were often out of necessity or lack of patience,and then he only dealt with the same guys he trusted around the league, to his downfall. The Phanuef trade was a lack of scoring,and a lot of injuries up front, so he needed a bunch of forwards, and dealt only with Burke. Remember Phil Sauve, gone within a week for being selfish wandering down for a goalie fight?

His teams didn’t get it done in the playoffs, pure and simple...like 2004 though, where it took a clutch game 7 Vancouver or that run would’ve never happened, and then winning every Game 5 with each 4 series, all tied 2-2, on the road, was remarkable in many senses, never mind odds wise.

Like the Flames in 1989, 2004 and maybe last year, those 2006-09 playoff teams maybe just needed to also just get past the mental barrier of the first round, and win who knows, because you never got the sense they were built for only one round...but Sutter had the roster built right there for a first round success, and all 3 of those series the Flames could’ve just as easily come out the winners in the end, though Kipper did play lights out vs Detroit and carry the team.

If Sutter gets to round 2 or 3 in a couple of those years, I think he gets much longer rope (he already had a fair bit) from Edwards and the owners and his moves don’t look quite as puzzling as they did with no playoff success to support his cause.

02-19-2020, 11:51 PM	#188
browna Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Calgary Exp:	And, before we go off too far on Sutter, Flames had a Game 7 vs Ana the next year after a terrible sequence which could’ve had the series over before 7 with a Huselius breakaway post turning in Game 5 turning into a Ducks PP to tie the game and the win in OT. Then Moss missing an empty net in OT Game 6 from taking the Wings to 7 in 2007. Next year, there again, losing 7 games the next playoffs vs Sharks. So he had the teams right there, they couldn’t get over that first round hump after decent regular seasons. Sutter brought respectability back to the Flames, signings like Amonte, McCarty the first year were unheard of. Guys like Hamrlik chose the Flames. Bouwmeester. Cammaleri, Langkow, Jokinen on that trade deadline day in 2009 and made an immediate impact. His trades were often out of necessity or lack of patience,and then he only dealt with the same guys he trusted around the league, to his downfall. The Phanuef trade was a lack of scoring,and a lot of injuries up front, so he needed a bunch of forwards, and dealt only with Burke. Remember Phil Sauve, gone within a week for being selfish wandering down for a goalie fight? His teams didn’t get it done in the playoffs, pure and simple...like 2004 though, where it took a clutch game 7 Vancouver or that run would’ve never happened, and then winning every Game 5 with each 4 series, all tied 2-2, on the road, was remarkable in many senses, never mind odds wise. Like the Flames in 1989, 2004 and maybe last year, those 2006-09 playoff teams maybe just needed to also just get past the mental barrier of the first round, and win who knows, because you never got the sense they were built for only one round...but Sutter had the roster built right there for a first round success, and all 3 of those series the Flames could’ve just as easily come out the winners in the end, though Kipper did play lights out vs Detroit and carry the team. If Sutter gets to round 2 or 3 in a couple of those years, I think he gets much longer rope (he already had a fair bit) from Edwards and the owners and his moves don’t look quite as puzzling as they did with no playoff success to support his cause. Last edited by browna; 02-19-2020 at 11:57 PM.