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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I read this as someone who wants to blames a guy that left the organization over nine years ago for the state of the current team. Maybe that's unfair to you, but I believe that's the subtext of what you're saying.
Treliving didn't inherit a solid big league roster and I didn't say that he did. But I think you ignored everything I listed that was good about the situation he stepped into. I stand by my belief that no Flames GM has inherited a better situation than what he did.
I want to evaluate the guy based on what he has, and just as importantly, hasn't done in the last 6 years. If you're saying he had to dig himself out of too big a hole, that's fine. We just see it quite differently.
And I see him doing nothing differently to get any value out of aging players or expiring UFA's, other than when he first took over and they were other people's players.
Is the big league roster better than six years ago? Unequivocal yes from me. Given what he started with and the assets he had to leverage, that is not enough IMO.
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No I'm merely disputing your theory that he was stepping into a good situation. He wasn't. The #1 thing a GM needs is assets. This organization has been asset poor since the 80s.
So you when you say "given what he started with and the assets he had to leverage". What assets? He had an aging crappy roster and a horrible prospect base. What assets?
When you turnover your core roster and get nothing in return for them - you pay that price for years.