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Old 02-12-2020, 01:36 PM   #168
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Originally Posted by Jore View Post
Since this is the closest thread to one dedicated to general Flames roster discussion, I decided to post this here. Evolving Wild's Goals Above Replacement model has the Flames players as follows:
https://twitter.com/user/status/1227687476183158786

Obviously, Lucic at the top is the most surprising, but it also shows the huge discrepancy between our top 3 defenders (Gio, Brodie, Andersson), and the break-even or worse play provided by the bottom 3.

I think Kylington's even strength offense (his biggest detriment) will come around with more opportunity and comfort, but Hamonic is a huge liability defensively, and Hanifin just doesn't seem to do anything especially well except not take penalties and pitch in on the PP.

Mangiapane and Ryan's GAR results track closely to the eye test. Also surprising to me was how good Dube's underlying stats have been, and how poor Bennet's have been.

By this model, Stone has been responsible for -5 goals compared to an equivalent #7 defender, lmao.
I don't know what any of that means, but if it means Lucic has been good, then no. But he hasn't been that bad either to my surprise. I'd still take him over Neal any day of the week this season.
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