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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Does different driving habits lead inevitably to "more control"? Why are so many "elites" against this form of control.
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it's not the habits - it's the infrastructure.
RFID tags on toll highways, tracking by overpass readers or satellites or whatever.
pretty quick we're tracked everywhere, all the time.
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
I can think of a few of these "elites" who have actively campaigned and fought against environmental regulations that are fell less severe than anything you are suggesting. Are they on the wrong page? Steven Harper and George Bush are clearly against this form of control. Either that or they are really good actors and they have a whole wack of powerful people really stumped.
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you can't look at single actions by individual stooges - there is always a controlled opposition, interestingly enough the big questions are never tabled and the debate is often between 'more control' and 'slightly less more control'. frame the debate and present a false choice.
and the really powerful people know where the bread is buttered, we're just in general out of the loop here.
the agenda rolls on over time, if GWB was really 'against' all this stuff he wouldn't have signed the SPP document.
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
I still don't get it. Say your scenario goes exactly as you say it will and at the end everyone drives less or uses less gas -- then some shadowy figure says "ah ha, now we've really got 'em". So what? Like what's the difference? They have more control over me how? What for? That's a pretty goddamn elaborate scheme to get me to drive less. And for a crowd that controls everything and calls all the shots, if they want us to drive less so they have "more control", why bother with this whole charade? You say "it's the mechanism", well it's a pretty shabby mechanism as far as I can tell. It's been mechanising for twenty years and we still aren't anywhere near a global mile tax.
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if you look at a global mile tax as the endgame, as the reason, then no wonder you're stumped. it's simply one more step towards complete and total tracking of everyone, which in turn is another step towards god knows what.
money - real wealth - is not the goal here.