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Old 02-10-2020, 08:43 PM   #28
nfotiu
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube View Post
It's not like saying those things at all, though. You've already made the necessary trip to the grocery store for groceries, the bag decision doesn't factor in. Same with going to the mall, you're unlikely to have gone to the mall just to get soap (it's possible, but unlikely).


Half the options suggested here are literally driving to a specialty store (which could be halfway across the city) for just that one product.



As for validity to my comment:


https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/gr...senger-vehicle





http://green.brightblue.org.uk/blog/...g-the-evidence





So driving the average passenger vehicle for one mile has roughly the same CO2 footprint of four plastic bottles. Change that to a gas guzzling truck or full size SUV half the city drives, then figure out that your specialty store is likely much further than a mile away, and you can see how it adds up pretty fast.



Your best option is to buy whatever soap is available on a trip that you've already made (like the grocery store example, you're there anyways for necessities), or, at the mall when you're there getting other things as well. Ordering online is just the same problem with someone else doing the driving.
I'm not really thinking you proved your point very well. A rigid, plastic soap botte with the plastic pump mechanism has got be at least 5-10x the amount of plastic as a typical water bottle. I'm sure the OP is looking to fill a container that holds enough soap for 10-20 refills of the pump dispensers, and not just looking to go fill one at a time. I'd also venture a guess that someone who is that concerned about looking to reduce waste has an above average efficient car. The break even point on carbon reduction is probably going to be a lot more miles than you are suggesting.

All of that said, reducing plastic waste and the issues that it brings to the environment is the goal here, not necessarily reducing carbon footprint.
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