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Old 02-10-2020, 05:49 PM   #951
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
Ultimately, Americans have a different culture and different values from Canadians. Outside of a few coastal pockets, they have never shown the willingness to pay taxes and rely on public services to the levels Canadians do. Sanders' program (assuming it would even be passed by congress and the Senate) would require substantial increase in taxes, and only 25 per cent of Americans are willing to pay higher taxes for more government services. That's the culture.

And American is a patriotic country. Corbyn's faceplant in the UK showed that outside of the progressive left, most voters - especially the working class - are unabashedly patriotic, and want a leader who's a passionate booster of their country and its history. Given his history, Republicans won't have any difficulty painting Sanders as an America-hating ivory tower lefty if he wins the nomination.
I would argue that what you describe as "patriotism" here is actually egoism and narcissism.

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There's pretty much no way any Dem can win. How badly ####ing run as a party do you have to be to lose to an openly corrupt, can't even get his spray tan right dementia case?
There was a deluge of extenuating circumstances which led to Hillary's loss in 2016. I think a competent candidate like Yang would wipe the floor with Trump in a general election.
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