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Originally Posted by Jimdon
This whole rant is just a mish mash of hurt feelings and regrets.
"Hartley got this team to perform at an elite level? What? Our entire strategy under Hartley was to back off and have every skater play goalie for the whole game until the other team got tired of shooting, and then hope to score on odd man rushes"
The Flames were regarded that year as a team that played above their heads because of their fitness level and their ability to weather other teams pushes and counter in the late game. The find a way flames were the reason Hartley won the Jack Adam's. It was a point of pride for them, not a weakness.
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"fitness level" - ah yes, they were
more fit than the other 29 teams. Totally
I already told you that Hartley had aspects of his coaching that were good. Literally in the post you dismissed as "mental gymnastics". But his entire ####ing strategy was to get outshot and score on the counter. It's not a strategy that wins consistently. It doesn't win consistently in the regular season. It doesn't win consistently in the playoffs. It's just a bad strategy long term. That's why Brad Treliving fired him. Brad Treliving explicitely stated that systems were the reason Hartley was let go, when Hartley was let go. I don't know what you're trying to argue.
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You criticize Hartley in one breath but then criticize Peters later because he didnt play players like Bennett and Brodie as much as Hartley did?
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Yeah. Hartley was the best coach out of the last
five coaches we have had (a full decade of coaches). And he was
still a coach with mickey mouse systems that don't cut it if you plan on winning it all. The last time we had a genuinely good coach was probably Mike Keenan. And before that Darryl Sutter.
We need a good coach again instead of another dud. A hundred bad coaches are still a hundred bad coaches.
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You spend a lot of time focusing on a lack of ice time for Bennett and Brodie in the playoffs. I dont feel like they would have moved the needle in any significant way with an extra 5 minutes of ice time.
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Here were the defense pairs and their ES ice time and their on-ice goals:
Gio-Brodie - 62:13 - 2 GF 1 GA
Hanifin-Hamonic - 77:25 - 1 GF 4 GA
Valimaki-Andersson - 28:12 - 1 GF 0 GA
Fantenberg-Andersson - 19:46 - 1 GF 0 GA
Two of our losses in that series were one goal games. Another, game 5, was tied and we were dominating it when the second pair completely shifted the momentum and got scored on.
Yeah I think sheltering players who were a liability would have squeezed out one out of the three winnable games, maybe even two or all three for all we know. That's not to say it accounts for the other issue (that his systems were figured out by Bednar and he had no counter in terms of an effective breakout plan) but it sure as #### could have prevented us from dropping FOUR STRAIGHT GAMES.
And yeah, I think a player who was obviously feeling it offensively (5 goals in 5 games) might have been able to help the team squeeze out one or two more goals with expanded icetime. Maybe an extra shift or ten in Frolik's spot - Frolik was one of our worst players in the playoffs and has not had a good playoff since 2013. Again, we just needed to get one or two more wins for it to have been a series.
Peters got thoroughly outcoached, and was generally a headless chicken in the playoffs.