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Old 02-05-2020, 05:06 PM   #149
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen View Post
Sorry, got to go. I do confess it was a trap Azure hoping you would actually take a look at the study. Because once you bring up the Minnesota Starvation Experiment, you'll find something conveniently lost in most of those talking about the 30%-40% BMR reduction. It was at the end of the starvation period where that number comes from. And participants also lost 25% of their weight during that period. They didn't lose 30% of their calories and the next day had 30% reduction in their BMR. The body tried to compensate over a prolonged time of starving (and it did, to a much smaller degree than you think..)

"In the six months of starvation these men lost an average of 16.8 kg. (37.0 pounds) representing 24.0 percent of their original body weight. "

"Measurements of the basal metabolism before starvation gave values averaging 11.8% below the Mayo Clinic "standard" normal average but this conforms to all experience with normal subjects in this laboratory. During starvation the basal metabolism steadily declined to reach a final average of -39.3% on the Mayo scale."
I never said that your BMR dropped overnight. I just said that it DOES drop, even if it takes a year. Not sure what point you are trying to make. At the end of the day it is not sustainable or healthy to eat 1500 calories per day and deal with a BMR that is cut in half. Long-term it'll wreck your body.

Now just for fun, go look at what happens to your BMR when you do IF.

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During periods of fasting, not only is BMR maintained via increased noradrenaline levels, but there is also no net increase in hunger, measured via ghrelin levels. Furthermore, intermittent fasting also preserves lean body mass, and so is said to be muscle-sparing.
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/in-depth/...eutic-fasting/

As for the people who think the thread got derailed, it sure did. By the people who love to link studies and research selling the big food version of how you should diet. The subject is apparently controversial despite actual evidence from people who have had success with these programs saying otherwise.
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