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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Not every young player is an instant star. Patience needs to be had with rookies like Mangiapane and Dube. It's frustrating to see how little patience some people have with rookies (not you in particular but I've seen it a lot on this board.)
Johnny won't ever be the only small guy considering we have Mangiapane, Dube, Ryan plus guys like Phillips, Zavgorodny, etc on the way.
Continues to acquire small players? What small players has he acquired? Czarnik was sought after by over half the league if you put any stock into the rumours at the time. And its not like they've been force feeding him top 6 ice time ever. Ryan? Probably one of the Treliving's best UFA signings. I don't see any history of Treliving favouring small players.
I'm down on Gaudreau, that should be obvious. He certainly isn't making the players around him better this year, quite the opposite in fact, he's been dragging down his line mates 5 on 5 all year. His finishing has been poor, his passing has been poor, his puck possession has been dreadful. Given his contract status, Tkachuk's contract status I'd say he's very quickly playing his way off the team. There aren't years to wait and hope he rebounds, the tough decisions have to be made soon.
Tkachuk and Lindholm are your key guys to build around up front. I think Monahan is a keeper. I think Dube and Mangiapane will continue to develop into nice complimentary 2nd/3rd line pieces. On defense we're in fantastic shape long term. Goaltending seems like its in a good place long term as well.
The team isn't really that far off contending, Treliving has some fantastic pieces to continue to build around. Turn Gaudreau into someone who actually makes a difference 5 on 5 and we'd be a far more dangerous team.
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We are not being impatient. Realistic is more like it.
Sam Bennet was going to be a star.
Baertschi was for sure. So was Grandlund So was Kabasew. And Poirier ,Ryder and on and on.
Mangi and Dube look like NHLers, but they may not be more than spare parts here or on some other team.
But that's not really my point. My point is that Tre should work on trading these smaller players with upside for bigger versions. Dube looks promising and may be a good trade chip to get a guy like Josh Anderson for example. Im not suggesting that this is a one for one trade, I don't really know what it would take. But you get my point, ship the smaller guys out for the guys you really want. Don't get stuck in the "unrealized potential" mindset or be afraid to lose a trade. It's not about winning trades, it's about building a good team. And if the template is to get bigger (IMO it should be) then you should strive towards that. Instead Tre brings guys like Czarnik. Complete waste of a roster spot and more importantly cap space. Same with Foo, but he was a 2 way at least. And now we are talking about Phillips? And we are getting attached to guys like Dube and Mangi? This needs to stop or we will never see round 2 of playoffs again.