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Originally Posted by Red
Not raging. First post since the game on Saturday.
My point is this, don't waste assets or cap space for small guys. Just move on and look for what we really need. This is more about now, not the draft. Example, if Point is made available by TB, look elsewhere. We don't need another little guy.
And I am not so convinced about dealing Johnny. He is (was) special. He makes the guys around him better. Maybe it would be easier to get bigger players to compliment him? And I am not talking about stars like Stone. Maybe just average guys that can bust for him and hit the net from time to time. Look what McD does with slugs like Maroon or Kassian. I know he tries with Neal and Brouwer. But obviously both were over the hill. Look for someone younger. If Johnny is the only little guy maybe he can flourish again.
In the end Tre is not going to have a large team if he continues to acquire small players. They won't grow. Mangi and Dube look to be promising picks by Tre, but are they really making the Flames that much better? Objectively looking, they are pretty meh most nights.
I guess we wait and see if they will ever be impactful in the playoffs.
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Not every young player is an instant star. Patience needs to be had with rookies like Mangiapane and Dube. It's frustrating to see how little patience some people have with rookies (not you in particular but I've seen it a lot on this board.)
Johnny won't ever be the only small guy considering we have Mangiapane, Dube, Ryan plus guys like Phillips, Zavgorodny, etc on the way.
Continues to acquire small players? What small players has he acquired? Czarnik was sought after by over half the league if you put any stock into the rumours at the time. And its not like they've been force feeding him top 6 ice time ever. Ryan? Probably one of the Treliving's best UFA signings. I don't see any history of Treliving favouring small players.
I'm down on Gaudreau, that should be obvious. He certainly isn't making the players around him better this year, quite the opposite in fact, he's been dragging down his line mates 5 on 5 all year. His finishing has been poor, his passing has been poor, his puck possession has been dreadful. Given his contract status, Tkachuk's contract status I'd say he's very quickly playing his way off the team. There aren't years to wait and hope he rebounds, the tough decisions have to be made soon.
Tkachuk and Lindholm are your key guys to build around up front. I think Monahan is a keeper. I think Dube and Mangiapane will continue to develop into nice complimentary 2nd/3rd line pieces. On defense we're in fantastic shape long term. Goaltending seems like its in a good place long term as well.
The team isn't really that far off contending, Treliving has some fantastic pieces to continue to build around. Turn Gaudreau into someone who actually makes a difference 5 on 5 and we'd be a far more dangerous team.