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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
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The graphs show that the majority of so called Bros weren't even Democrats to begin with. 10% were considered strong Democrats that voted for Trump. Sanders appears to have brought in populist support from Republicans and Independents. Caveats also mentioned significant numbers of Republican primary voters came out for Hillary. There is probably a great deal of this swing in every election since primaries aren't the general.
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Originally Posted by New Era
It's not. This is pretty much an accepted facts in political circles. Sanders voters were a disruptive block and were the tipping point. Clinton is largely to blame for this as she did not work to bring their voting block into the fold, but it was a large chunk of Sanders supporters that abandoned the Democrats and voted for Trump out of spite. You can call it stupid - and it was on their part - but its what happened.
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sand...lection-654320
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/54581...p-survey-finds
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-the-election/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspi.../#23389c22539f
The evidence is there.
Now this is stupid. "Nothingburgers" which included piles of evidence of crimes, more charges and convictions than there were in Watergate, and a "trial" where no witnesses or evidence was brought forward to protect Trump? That just ignorance of the facts, pretending that corruption in the Republican party doesn't exist, and believing that everything that has happened in the past four years (it seems like forty) had no impact to our country, society, and culture.
If Sanders is such a great leader, and the last great hope for this country, what has he done the last four years to change anything, to hold the Trump administration in check, or be a voice of reason against the abuses we've seen? Bernie Sanders is a populist figure, but he hasn't done anything to show leadership at a time when the country has needed it the most. If anything, Sanders has been hiding in the background waiting to campaign again rather than putting himself out there as the foil to the administration. Where is Sanders' voice in the senate right now, and standing up yelling from the rooftops that our democracy is under attack and the actions of the Republicans are not only immoral, but counter to their responsibilities as defined by the constitution? |
A certain amount of crossover and flips happen in every general election. It goes back to populist vs. establishment, a significant number of people weren't interested in a continuation of the Obama years.
Sanders has been forceful in denouncing Trump as the most corrupt President in modern American history. There's enough populist crossover that it's probably wise to stay above the fray. Someone posted recently that upwards of 10% of Trump voters would vote for Sanders in the general.
After three years of shouting about decorum, corruption, norms and guardrails ect what has been accomplished? Trump hasn't been checked at all, because the Senate is firmly stacked in his favor. The entire Impeachment debacle was a waste of time, and now Trump will run on being acquitted and the do nothing Democrats were trying to undo our glorious, historic 2016 win.