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Originally Posted by GGG
I won’t defend the movie making choices like the cold open, the casino planet or the low speed chase. They were bad. But watching each one again LTJ is clearly better the ROS. Under any bit of scrutiny Star Wars Maguffin Hunt falls a part. At least LTJ try’s to do something it succeeds creating a compelling Kylo/Rey relationship. It succeeds at making Luke interesting. It succeeds at making the universe feel lived in. It also fails at many things. But to me it tried to be its own movie in Star Wars. JJs first nostalgia fest was entertaining but then he just did it again. Treverrow continuing on from where LTJ left off seems like it would have been better.
New force powers have been introduced in every movie. It went from a feeling that guided you, to chucking rocks and lifting space ships, to force lightning, to dreams that tell the future, to magic light savers that could pass messages to Force time, to the force Dias re-birth / super ship killing lightning. Critiquing last Jedi for “new” force powers is ridiculous.
Rian didn’t say that the Jedi religion didn’t exist anymore. The movie ends on Yoda saying she has everything she needs and Rey having the books. It’s set up for Rey to rebuild the order into something new that won’t cause endless cycles of suffering.
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To each his own I guess. To me the tone was way too comedic. What part felt lived in? That casino sequence? The first order walking around like Monty Python characters? Snokes' guards doing ballet during battle? Least lived in of all Star wars material thus far.
Luke interesting? Because he milked a giant thing and then had a tantrum.
It wasn't just the new force powers it was their scope. Previously, there was always some subtlety to the force powers. You couldn't just use them to entirely solve problems. They could use them with great concentration to manipulate objects or push people. Abrams may have been even worse, as relatively untrained users are now stopping space ships at a distance in flight.
The Ray/Ren thing was horribly butchered. Was their relationship romantic? Brother/sister? Do we need the shirtless Driver Skype calls? They have very little chemistry, and don't even interact that much yet we're supposed to believe the greatest bond in the Star Wars universe ever exists between them. This was Abrams failure too, but all the distractions Johnson created didn't help.