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Originally Posted by nfotiu
Public option? 75% of college students are in public, state run colleges/Universities that are already heavily subsidized.
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Heavily subsidized? No, not really. The idea that colleges and universities are getting a ton of money is a wives tale. The most successful schools have a great ability to fund raise, which gives them a competitive advantage. The amount of money given to the schools from the states is a drop in the bucket to what is raised through alumni and private interests. ASU has not turned things around because the State of Arizona gave them money. Just the opposite actually. The State of Arizona, just like states all over the country, have reduced spending on higher ed and forced the schools to find money elsewhere.
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Most of those 2 year degrees are fully transferable to the first 2 years of public universities and provide a very good gateway to a more affordable and accessible 4 year degree.
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That is correct. Those two year degrees are transferable, if you meet admission requirements. Just because you have an associates does not mean you are going to be automatically accepted into another school and the program of your choice. State schools do have the ability to spin up extra sessions, if they can find qualified instructors. There is the rub. In demand programs are usually limited by the availability of instructors, so the programs can only accept so many students. If you are not in the top X% of applicants, you're not getting in. That's just the way things work, and transfers always have a challenge because they don't already have the foot in the door so to speak.
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Originally Posted by peter12
As I said, I'm clueless. It was my understanding that it was the most extensive.
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California's system is quite extensive because it is a very large state. Texas is another that has a very impressive system. All states have similar systems and operate in similar fashions. It's not like they can go way off the road map in how they do things, as the accrediting bodies have a lot of say in how things work. Same with the feds and how the schools interface with them. There are a lot of differences between systems, but because students are becoming more transient in nature you're starting to see a lot more systems find ways to normalize processes and get on board with doing things the same way. California does do things well, but they also have some serious challenges. Same with Texas. Fortunately, everyone is now learning from each other and sharing best practices to make things work better for the student.