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Old 01-23-2020, 01:08 PM   #465
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken View Post
I don't think you're cooking the books, I think you're avoiding the tangible context that would give those expected goals number meaning.

You're saying that 3 years of data of bennett producing high quality scoring chances suggests that there is more there.

I'm saying 3 years of data of bennett producing high quality scoring chances without the actual scoring suggests Bennett is one of the worst tangible producers in the entire league.

At what point does a 52% ixG% and 9 goals mean to you that Bennett isn't looking to pop but that he's just a guy that doesn't produce?

Like, do you feel the same way about Colton Sissons? He's a guy that if Treliving went out and got him on the cheap, he'd be a great addition?

Because over the last 3 seasons they have the same amount of goals and assists and are within 6 games played of each other. Both have jam, Sissons can actually play centre and is much better on the draw and takes half as many penalties. He's generally a more versatile and better defensive player.

Over the last 3 years, the only flames forwards with a worse shooting percentage than Bennett are Backlund, Frolik and Neal.

Maybe 3 years worth of data that suggests tangible offense is in short supply for Bennett combined with data that says he should score more goals than he does just means he's bad at scoring goals? Could it be that simple?
And your response would be spot on if I was suggesting patience, or trying to convince you that the player is unlucky.

Luckily I didn't say either of those things.

I said it may never happen. I said that those that think that's that are completely understandable.

What I did say is that there are measures that suggest the book hasn't been written ... so to say there is no reason to believe there may be more is actually hyperbole, because there is.

Your need to continue to spew counting stats seems off base in response to what I said.

I guess you have a reflex action to the word Bennett that has you just respond the same way to everyone.

As to context ... 750 is a logical cut off point to get the league's full roster of forwards over that time period. It was an attempt to just give pure data without sample sizes getting in the way. By describing exactly what I did I provided 100% context for what I posted.
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