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Major Major · 01-22-2020, 10:07 AM

Of course the "hockey world" is largely against Tkachuk. As some of you are quick to point out, he is already largely hated. So it is no surprise that this bias creeps into the arguments being put forth by different players. I've got no problem with that. I don't find Tkachuk particularly dishonorable, but this is my own bias at work. That's just what happens when the passion of fans and players reaches emotional intensity, logic slips away.

But my curiosity lies in this whole dirty but legal bit argument. The last time it popped up, in my memory, is with head shots. It rightly precipitated the only body checking rule change in the modern NHL.

So my question is, what other hits do people remember that got this label? What examples are there?

Is it the preference of the "hockey world" to make a rule change her? Or just let the "code" take care of these types of hits.

My opinion is the hits are within the rules and therefore are fine. I believe that if you want to take some hits out that we deem to be dirty, they need to be defined and then made illegal by the rule book. But this is by far not my preference.

But if you were to make The Tkachuk hits illegal, what would the rule be? I've heard many people complain about the hits for about 6 different reasons, but no one reason really sticks. Head as the secondary point of head contact, hitting a player that is reaching for a puck, hitting a player near the boards, a winger hitting a player below the goal line, a player hitting a player who is already being defended, taking 4 strides to make a hit.

Measures could be put in place to make any one of those illegal. But no one seems to be asking for that.

If you make these illegal, the code could still exist. In fact, it would make way more sense as players would need to answer for illegal hits.

I think the code makes no sense and cannot be explained coherently if part of its function is to get retribution for legal hits. And that's why no one has really made a sensible argument for kassian's actions. They just say, "if you've played hockey, you would know." And of course the media and fans graft onto that as if it makes sense, but no one is saying, "if you'd played hockey, you would know, and here's why..." They're just treating it like a mic drop moment. It doesn't work the way they're intending, since all they are saying in my eyes is "ya, we hate that guy, glad he took a beating"

So, tkachuk haters, can you think of examples of other legal dirty hits? Do you want a rule change or are you ok with an incoherent code?

01-22-2020, 10:07 AM	#1369
Major Major First Line Centre Join Date: Sep 2011 Exp:	Of course the "hockey world" is largely against Tkachuk. As some of you are quick to point out, he is already largely hated. So it is no surprise that this bias creeps into the arguments being put forth by different players. I've got no problem with that. I don't find Tkachuk particularly dishonorable, but this is my own bias at work. That's just what happens when the passion of fans and players reaches emotional intensity, logic slips away. But my curiosity lies in this whole dirty but legal bit argument. The last time it popped up, in my memory, is with head shots. It rightly precipitated the only body checking rule change in the modern NHL. So my question is, what other hits do people remember that got this label? What examples are there? Is it the preference of the "hockey world" to make a rule change her? Or just let the "code" take care of these types of hits. My opinion is the hits are within the rules and therefore are fine. I believe that if you want to take some hits out that we deem to be dirty, they need to be defined and then made illegal by the rule book. But this is by far not my preference. But if you were to make The Tkachuk hits illegal, what would the rule be? I've heard many people complain about the hits for about 6 different reasons, but no one reason really sticks. Head as the secondary point of head contact, hitting a player that is reaching for a puck, hitting a player near the boards, a winger hitting a player below the goal line, a player hitting a player who is already being defended, taking 4 strides to make a hit. Measures could be put in place to make any one of those illegal. But no one seems to be asking for that. If you make these illegal, the code could still exist. In fact, it would make way more sense as players would need to answer for illegal hits. I think the code makes no sense and cannot be explained coherently if part of its function is to get retribution for legal hits. And that's why no one has really made a sensible argument for kassian's actions. They just say, "if you've played hockey, you would know." And of course the media and fans graft onto that as if it makes sense, but no one is saying, "if you'd played hockey, you would know, and here's why..." They're just treating it like a mic drop moment. It doesn't work the way they're intending, since all they are saying in my eyes is "ya, we hate that guy, glad he took a beating" So, tkachuk haters, can you think of examples of other legal dirty hits? Do you want a rule change or are you ok with an incoherent code?