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Old 01-21-2020, 08:20 PM   #1289
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
May I ask why you felt it was awful? I get that it's not an uplifting movie and may not be everyone's cup of tea but what was awful about it? Certainly not the acting.
I thought the script was just terrible, some of the dialogue was extremely un-subtle and made me laugh out loud. Joaquin was good but I thought the other performers were pretty hit-and-miss. The guy who played Thomas Wayne was really hammy. There were some very questionable editing and direction choices -- the inclusion of some scenes felt unnecessary.

But my number one issue was, once again, the script. Can't believe it's nominated for the adapted screenplay Oscar, it was one of the worst scripts I've ever witnessed in a movie. I also thought that, for as good as Joaquin was, the movie didn't do a good enough job of establishing the nature of his character. I wasn't sure how the movie wanted me to feel about him. There were times where I felt that the movie was underselling just how dangerous his character was. And of course I understand the nature of ambiguity and how it can make for interesting stories, but I thought there were times when the film almost seemed to be holding the Joker in too positive and sympathetic a light. It felt like a very dangerous commentary. And I do think there are sides to the Joker's character that are very tragic, but at the end of the day, I was uncomfortable with how the movie almost seemed to be veering towards praise for the Joker himself. And I found it difficult to fixate upon any of the other characters because they clearly weren't the focus of the script and were therefore very underwritten and flat.

I liked some aspects of it -- Joaquin was good, I like De Niro (but some of his lines were real clunkers), the art direction and production design was good, I didn't mind the score but it was a little overbearing at times. But overall... I thought it was a pretty awful movie sunk by a very thin script.
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