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Calgary4LIfe · 01-18-2020, 07:25 PM

I don't know if a coaching change is in order or not, but just because you changed coaches doesn't mean you can rule that out as the problem either. Anyone here think that Gulutzan or Peters were really great coaches? Ward is a relative unknown - maybe he will figure things out, maybe he won't. Hartley was the most proven coach this team has had in a very long time, and there are very few people who think it was a mistake firing him.

I don't know if Ward is a good coach or not. I just find the logic behind trying to shut-down any discussion about a coaching change rather absurd as you have to go way back to Darryl Sutter to see a coach who has left the Flames and continued elsewhere as a head coach in the NHL.

Jim Playfair
Mike Keenan
Brent Sutter
Bob Hartley
Glen Gulutzan
Bill Peters
Geoff Ward

I will give you that Ward is new and it may not be fair to him to insinuate he isn't a good head coach. However, he is far from being a proven coach.

Hartley was the most proven coach since Darryl Sutter, and he has been the only coach since Darryl to get this team playing consistently from the start of a season to the end of one. Darryl was a damn fine coach that got his team to drastically exceed expectations.

All the other coaches failed. None have really exceeded expectations, outside of a nice regular season finish last year from Peters.

Tell me again that coaching is definitely not the issue and actually do more to explain why you think so other than the fact that there has been a change already. Again, just because you make a change doesn't rule out the possibility that the change was in any way an improvement, especially when your hand was forced and the pool of legitimate candidates was practically non-existent. Since then, there has been some very good options that opened up. I am not campaigning for Ward to be replaced - I am seeing some things that I really don't like at the moment, but not quite sure if he should be replaced or not. I do, however, think that there is absolutely no reason to be so sure that coaching is not THE problem, or that it isn't at least A problem.

01-18-2020, 07:25 PM	#152
Calgary4LIfe Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Exp:	I don't know if a coaching change is in order or not, but just because you changed coaches doesn't mean you can rule that out as the problem either. Anyone here think that Gulutzan or Peters were really great coaches? Ward is a relative unknown - maybe he will figure things out, maybe he won't. Hartley was the most proven coach this team has had in a very long time, and there are very few people who think it was a mistake firing him. I don't know if Ward is a good coach or not. I just find the logic behind trying to shut-down any discussion about a coaching change rather absurd as you have to go way back to Darryl Sutter to see a coach who has left the Flames and continued elsewhere as a head coach in the NHL. Jim Playfair Mike Keenan Brent Sutter Bob Hartley Glen Gulutzan Bill Peters Geoff Ward I will give you that Ward is new and it may not be fair to him to insinuate he isn't a good head coach. However, he is far from being a proven coach. Hartley was the most proven coach since Darryl Sutter, and he has been the only coach since Darryl to get this team playing consistently from the start of a season to the end of one. Darryl was a damn fine coach that got his team to drastically exceed expectations. All the other coaches failed. None have really exceeded expectations, outside of a nice regular season finish last year from Peters. Tell me again that coaching is definitely not the issue and actually do more to explain why you think so other than the fact that there has been a change already. Again, just because you make a change doesn't rule out the possibility that the change was in any way an improvement, especially when your hand was forced and the pool of legitimate candidates was practically non-existent. Since then, there has been some very good options that opened up. I am not campaigning for Ward to be replaced - I am seeing some things that I really don't like at the moment, but not quite sure if he should be replaced or not. I do, however, think that there is absolutely no reason to be so sure that coaching is not THE problem, or that it isn't at least A problem.