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Old 01-15-2020, 04:26 PM   #2077
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Originally Posted by Firebot View Post
Difference is normal power plants actually generate power, while the Vulcan plant put money in the pockets of owners similar to the Monorail from the Simpsons. The Medicine Hat solar plant was already turfed for good reason. Doesn't matter if the plant's nameplate is 400 MW if it would generate 10 MW or lower in days like today.

Despite not having a new power plant built in over 40 years, despite a heavy push for solar and decommissioning of nuclear generating stations, Ontario is still heavily dependent on nuclear with solar being completely inefficient despite much warmer temperatures than here right now. Ontario was able to decomission coal plants solely because they have nuclear to back up the province's energy needs (not solar / wind)

https://www.dispatcho.app/live/AFG1

Ontario Demand at 5:00 p.m. EST
17,933 MW
Market Demand at 5:00 p.m. EST
20,014 MW
Hourly Output by Fuel Type at 5:00 p.m. EST
Nuclear
11,639 MW

Hydro
4,764 MW
Gas
1,849 MW
Wind
175 MW
Solar
7 MW

Biofuel
43 MW

Ontario solar has a capacity of 424 MW (generating 7 MW), wind has a capacity of 4486 MW (generating 175 MW) while Nuclear has a capacity of 13009 MW (generating 11639 MW).

Let us know which is more efficient.

Ontario is a net seller of energy, it produces too much because of combined nuclear and hydro.

Nuclear is definitely the best option and always has been, but fear is a powerful tool, and no industry has been vilified more despite the industry being one of the safest ones.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world continues to build real energy projects with nuclear that provide real world results versus theoretical.

https://www.fircroft.com/blogs/8-maj...nd-91492916433
Notice how nothing in your post spoke about the cost of nuclear?

Nobody is arguing that it isn't the 'best' option in terms of actual power production. We are simply saying that due to regulations and the high cost barrier it is simply not an option investors are going for. Again, the market is speaking very loudly here.

Also, how much is Bruce Power spending on upgrading the Ontario plants? It is a insanely high amount.

Spend the same money on solar, wind + storage in a high capacity area such as Texas and your return is ten-fold. Plus, a solar plant can be up and running in 1 year. Nuclear takes 10+.

Lastly, without subsidies, solar + wind are costing less and less to build per kwH. Maybe not in Canada, but the world is a lot bigger than the frozen north.
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