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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
I'm only going to comment once more on this, as it's pretty obvious that people here are set in their opinions. Yes, I agree there are issues with China's government. But to act like all the protesters in HK are blameless in this is just wrong. I see the argument that anyone criticizing the protesters are China "bots" or "brainwashed" by Chinese state media, but if you actually talk to regular Chinese people, (and not just mainlanders, but also Chinese people that are from Hong Kong), there's a lot of blame to go around for both sides. It's not all on the feet of the Chinese government. And it is pretty obvious the western media has a clear bias towards one side. Google any news about it, and it's always on the side of protesters being the victims.
How do you defend the blatant racism now rampant among the Hong Kong people on how they treat mainland Chinese people in HK? These mainland people are just trying to live in the city and earn a living, yet they're openly being verbally and physically assaulted on a regular basis. I find it embarrassing as a person of Chinese decent that Chinese people in Hong Kong are being so openly racist against other regular Chinese people in the city. Have your issues with the government, fine. But that does not excuse all the racist rants and and actions these guys are doing on a daily basis. There is just so much vitriol towards mainland Chinese people, it's a bit sickening TBH.
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I don't disagree with just about anything you've said. However, I do think the government ultimately bears responsibility because instead of pursuing a political solution to a political problem, they have left the police to deal with it and that has precipitated the downward spiral, which they are further fueling. I believe that is a conscious and strategic choice. It fits with the current tightening across China and the implications of what's happening in HK are much broader than just the impact on HK.
AnonymousStranger is trolling, but I also dislike the “China bot” attacks generally. That's clearly different from what you're doing.
I will also say, the discriminatory pushback against mainland Chinese that's growing is in large part attributable to how China handles itself at home and abroad, and the ethno nationalism promoted by the government. Media often sensationalizes this when they actually cover China issues, but there are substantive sources of concern from a Western perspective or a human rights perspective. I really dislike seeing this growth in anti-Chinese sentiment. It worries me, and I expect it to get worse.The CCP and Chinese people are not the same, but fear and discrimination typically aren't based on nuanced considerations and things happening with the CCP provide a lot of fuel for those fires of fear, hatred and discrimination.
Inside China, there's also a lot of discrimination. People in Guangzhou calling those coming central China barbarians used to be rampant too. There's a flashpoint of these types of sentiments in HK right now, but it's not unique to HK people.