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Old 01-13-2020, 10:39 AM   #417
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT View Post
Israel, like any other democratic country, has it's governmental fluctuations that make it better or worse. Lets not whitewash history and pretend Netanyahu would do anything other than stand pat on previous policy decisions. LGBT protections being handed as a moral win to Likud is like saying Stephen Harper championed those same rights here.

Activists had to fight tooth and nail to get what they got in Israel and Likud weren't the governments that handed it to them. They just get to pretend they're some bastion of freedom in a sea of #### because more sane and kind governments figured it out before/after them.

This article from the Yale review is a good primer on how they have suppressed the movement for same-sex marriage:

http://yris.yira.org/acheson-prize/2453
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I have no idea what the point of this post is.
Not only that, it's totally inaccurate. Gay rights in Israel were largely decided by the court system, not some system of persecuted activists.

Likud is also a secular party, with most factions, including Netanyahu himself, supporting gay rights. Netanyahu just appointed the first openly gay minister to his cabinet, and he has a long track record of speaking out in favor of gay rights.

Likud is centre right, which forces them into alliances with right wing and orthodox religious parties. The Israeli parliamentary system usually results in dozens of parties holding seats in parliament, and it's simply not possible to have a government without compromising politically to form alliances. Unfortunately, Likud has been forced to compromise on gay rights to remain in power.

What's the "point of this post"? To use a bunch of false statements to paint Israel as bigoted towards gay people, when nothing could be further from the truth.

While were on the topic, what's the gay rights situation like in Mecca and the Vatican?
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