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Originally Posted by nik-
To the first. Yes. To all of it
Second, find where I said this was all about democracy. My opinion is straight forward, that your belief that it's all about oil is simplistic and lacks any nuance or thought that isn't a straight pull from a Zinn book. It's an entry level assertion. When you cling to such a cliched opinion, it's pretty hard to take you seriously.
Not even everything you're saying is explicitly "wrong", a lot of it is clearly factually correct. You're just using a small part of the picture and using it as the sole reason for decades of policy across an entire region. It's disingenuous and simplistic and it's blatantly so. So it's a little hard to take your stance with anything but an eyeroll.
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So why exactly do you think we are there then? we gave up on S E Asia and Africa, even South and Central America in the 70's, what is it about the Middle east that we still feel the need to actively prop up Absolute Monarchs and brutal dictators in the name of democracy, even when they periodically cause terrorist attacks on us like 9/11?