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Originally Posted by Bingo
You don't need to be excused, but the only thing silly about this is how you can't just accept a simple definition without a qualifier is different than the one you are floating out.
There are 31 teams, so the top 6 x 31 forwards are by very definition top six players. Backlund is one of them. That's straight math.
I've admitted several times that if you want to alter that definition to "top six on a playoff team" you'd be right, but that's not good enough for you.
You need to walk out the snark.
Honestly man just get over yourself. It's tiresome.
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I guess to me it's obvious that when someone says a 'bottom 6 player' the implication is they are not talking about the absolute worst teams in the league. Like, duh, backlund isn't a bottom 6 player on the oilers or the kings or the senators.
You're using averages here to pour cold water on what is a very real criticism: that backlund on his current projected pace is a bottom 6 roster player for a good team. Further to that, you're supplying information that says not only is backlund not a top 6 player on a top 10 team, he's actually not a top 6 player on a
playoff team, which is taking things much further than the point i made and in my opinion makes 'league average' comparisons appear even more inaccurate and frankly a bit dishonest, because no one would use a non playoff team as a justification for basically any team building strategy or judgement of talent.
I don't often feel comfortable speaking for other posters but in this instance I do. We all get what EE is saying here, that Backlunds decline from a 46 point player to a 36 player is a problem and has him slotted as a bottom 6 roster player on the flames who are otherwise a good team. Coincidentally, that was the line he found himself on after the 1st period in last night's game.
So yes, absolutely, on a league wide average backlund is a #5 guy. Clearly on a top 10 team he is not.
Your criteria was the delineation between 6 and 7, and it's also your criteria that that league average is what matters. Unless I'm missing something here, EE never suggested league wide average matters, that's the criteria you're using to call his opinion premature.
So it's nice that you think backlund is a top 6 forward. Unfortunately given your own evidence that means Calgary is not a playoff team.
That strikes me as a problem.