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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
And that's what I really didn't like about the ST story line. At the end it basically tossed out the end of the OT.
And yeah there's always been questions about what balance means.
For some the extermination of the Jedi by Anakin and then the end of Anakin and Palpatine leaving just Luke left the Force in a balance.
For other's balance meant the end of the Dark Side of the Force and the Sith leaving the Force in light is balance.
Obviously the prophesy was Jedi Propaganda.
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The thing is though that in order to create a sequel in the near future they need to say that the story wasn't finished at the end of the OT.
In order to have any type of Jedi/Sith conflict that means that the original ending in the OT was not a true victory for Luke & the Jedi.
And I think that's what makes the hardcore fans of the Original Trilogy unable to like this trilogy at all. All the fans can think is "This is ruining my childhood. Luke, Leia, and Hans were the heroes that eliminated evil and now this movie is saying they didn't win".
And that's why this trilogy had issues. For TFA it was okay because people were just happy to see everyone on screen again. It pretty much was a rehash of ANH, didn't really call out any flaws of the OT characters, and didn't really dig into how the universe got to this point again, so people were able to accept it.
BUT once TLJ was forced to actually dig into the back story of how The First Order became a power, why Luke was in hiding, and actually show why Kylo turned to the dark side it all fell apart. Because the people that wanted Luke/Hans/Leia to be flawless and heroes coming out of the OT couldn't accept that those heroes had failed and it all turned to #### so quickly after the OT ended.
Even though part of the story of this trilogy was that those three OT characters Hans/Luke/Leia had their own redemption arcs much like Vader had in the OT, it was too late. Fans didn't want to see those characters as flawed, the wanted them to be flawless.
That's why my guess is that in retrospect Disney wishes they had just stayed away from the Original Trilogy all together. They should have just placed Rey 100 years into the future with the same type of storyline.
Have the storyline be that the Force has awoken, maybe Kylo is still some great grandchild of Hans or something and he was a fanatic of the history of Vader, but just stay away from any of the Original Trilogy cast or characters being in this movie at all. Have the stories of Luke/Hans/Leia and those that eliminated Vader be tales from the past.
I honestly think that's they only way the could have pleased the hardcore fans, and created their own heroes.
Fans of the OT have such strong opinions of the OT characters and of Star Wars lore that anything that goes against what they've built up in their heads is going to create controversy.
Only way around that is just to create a whole new story in the universe and stay away from those characters all together.