Lots of great suggestions here thanks everyone for the input.
As far as routine, that might be our biggest problem. We did the whole pick something and stick with it and that worked, but since these regressions it hasn't. Now we've been trying different things but nothing in a consistent pattern, just kind of whatever works to get him to sleep that night so we can sleep.
So I think that is the hottest tip, you're right in that nothing works the same for two kids, except potentially the consistency.
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