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Old 01-01-2020, 03:06 PM   #139
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina View Post
Your views are pretty binary
"All in" or "Re-build"
"only can be addressed by the draft"

The reality is that there is more variability year to year in the NHL than ever before. The idea that they need to strip it down to the Tkachuk only bones seems a bit extreme.

What the organization needs to assess is which players they think are part of the roster going forward and which can be used to extract value.

But i don't see thinks as nearly "This or that" as you do.
This is jargon, Jiri. Corporate speak to say nothing at all.

We both used to laugh at the idea of a flames 're-tool', so what's changed? Do you need things to bottom out Iginla-Flames style to see what's right in front of you? This core group hasn't accomplished anything and they look like they will struggle to make the playoffs this year.

What is worth saving? Isn't this core group stalling out enough evidence for you that you need to build through the draft?

Even the blues team that just won the cup essentially tore things down after a conference final appearance 3 years prior.

Out:

Paul Stastny
David Backes (Captain)
Kevin Shattenkirk
Troy Brouwer
Patrik Berglund
Ryan Reeves
Brian Elliott
Sobotka

If you're not contending, you're rebuilding. Doing anything in between is Calgary Flames mediocrity. Moving 1st round picks for players that get you to the playoffs is mismanagement. Moving 1st round picks for elite level talent is good management.

Hard to put a finer point on it than that. If you think Treliving took over in year 1 of the rebuild, well, it's year 6, the rebuild is over, and the team looks to be on the decline. This isn't worth salvaging.

Again, I wonder what hockey people have been watching. Last year was fun, but this organization has less 7 playoff wins in 6 years. There is basically no difference between Tre's tenure and Feasters or Sutters at this point. A whole lot of nothing, mixed in with a couple of league wide embarrassments and underachieving hype.

If you think the Flames have a chance like the Blues, we're talking a 3 year concerted effort of rebuilding through trades and stockpiling of assets. If you look at that list of players the Blues traded and walked away from and compare their role to the Flames, there isn't much left besides tkachuk.
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