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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
The flames don't have a young core.
Monahan is 25. Lindholm is 25. Gaudreau is 26. Compared to yours and my old asses that's young, but have you looked around the league lately? O'Reilly had already established himself as a premiere 3 zone player by 25. Brayden Schenn was a 70 point 3 zone wrecking ball by age 26. Is Monahan as good as either of those guys? Does he look to be on that trajectory now? Tarasenko was a 4 time 30 goal scorer by the time he was 26.
Tkachuk is the only member of the core group who is young. I suppose Hanifin, but I don't consider him a core member considering he looks expendable now.
But the Flames Bridged Tkachuk, so he's probably gone in 3 years anyway.
Also, that core group has never shown much of anything so I don't understand the idea that they are good either.
Sometimes I feel like I've been watching a different team than you guys. The Flames have done absolutely nothing of note in 15 years. Last season was really fun, but, like, 1 playoff win and then the doors were blown off.
Without looking it up, can anyone name the team that finished 2nd overall 2 years ago? It's meaningless.
'A gritty centre' isn't going to fix things. There are fundamental issues with the roster that can only be addressed by the draft at this point.
Last year was the year to go all in and the Flames ended up with Fantenberg. When you have a shot you need to take it, because 7 months later the Flames look like they will miss the playoffs in maybe the weakest division in the league.
There is nothing worth saving about this group.
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Your views are pretty binary
"All in" or "Re-build"
"only can be addressed by the draft"
The reality is that there is more variability year to year in the NHL than ever before. The idea that they need to strip it down to the Tkachuk only bones seems a bit extreme.
What the organization needs to assess is which players they think are part of the roster going forward and which can be used to extract value.
But i don't see thinks as nearly "This or that" as you do.